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reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
All,

The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server with 
much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as much RAM 
and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should result in an 
8*+ or so improvement.

Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles 
moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as well. 
However, the articles might all show as un-read when you reconnect to 
news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird 
www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I 
could do to prevent this at this moment.

Let me know if there are any problems.

Thanks!
Jan



-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org
Jul 22 2006
next sibling parent "Derek Parnell" <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:52:07 +1000, Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> wrote:


 All,

 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server



 Let me know if there are any problems.


I'm using Opera (at home) and there were no problems at all.

I'll log in with 40tude at the office tomorrow and let you know if there  
are any issues there.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
Jul 22 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Kirk McDonald <kirklin.mcdonald gmail.com> writes:
Jan Knepper wrote:

 All,
 
 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server with 
 much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as much RAM 
 and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should result in an 
 8*+ or so improvement.
 
 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles 
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as well. 
 However, the articles might all show as un-read when you reconnect to 
 news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird 
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I 
 could do to prevent this at this moment.
 
 Let me know if there are any problems.
 
 Thanks!
 Jan
 


I can't seem to access archived messages through Thunderbird. New 
messages are showing up fine. The web archive doesn't seem to be 
working, either.

-- 
Kirk McDonald
Pyd: Wrapping Python with D
http://dsource.org/projects/pyd/wiki
Jul 22 2006
next sibling parent reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
OK, rebuild the overview and history... I think that solved it...

Thanks!
Jan



Kirk McDonald wrote:


 Jan Knepper wrote:

 All,

 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server 
 with much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as 
 much RAM and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should 
 result in an 8*+ or so improvement.

 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles 
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as 
 well. However, the articles might all show as un-read when you 
 reconnect to news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird 
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I 
 could do to prevent this at this moment.

 Let me know if there are any problems.

 Thanks!
 Jan


 
 I can't seem to access archived messages through Thunderbird. New 
 messages are showing up fine. The web archive doesn't seem to be 
 working, either.
Jul 22 2006
parent reply Kirk McDonald <kirklin.mcdonald gmail.com> writes:
Jan Knepper wrote:

 OK, rebuild the overview and history... I think that solved it...
 
 Thanks!
 Jan
 


Okay, it's working now. The web archive is still spitting out a 500 
error, however:
http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?digitalmars.D

-- 
Kirk McDonald
Pyd: Wrapping Python with D
http://dsource.org/projects/pyd/wiki
Jul 22 2006
parent reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Yeah... that's because there as some issue's running the 32 bits 
executable on a 64 bits operating system.
Trying to figure those out...

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "cerr" referenced from COPY 
relocation in <executable>

It has to do with the <executable> being linked against the dynamic 
libraries... If it would be static this would not be a problem. 
However... I do not have the sources... <sigh>

Jan



Kirk McDonald wrote:

 Jan Knepper wrote:

 OK, rebuild the overview and history... I think that solved it...

 Thanks!
 Jan


 
 Okay, it's working now. The web archive is still spitting out a 500 
 error, however:
 http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?digitalmars.D
 


-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org
Jul 22 2006
parent reply Justin C Calvarese <technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:
Jan Knepper wrote:

 Yeah... that's because there as some issue's running the 32 bits 
 executable on a 64 bits operating system.
 Trying to figure those out...
 
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "cerr" referenced from COPY 
 relocation in <executable>
 
 It has to do with the <executable> being linked against the dynamic 
 libraries... If it would be static this would not be a problem. 
 However... I do not have the sources... <sigh>
 
 Jan


Since "500 Internal Server Error" could be showing up for a long time, 
perhaps the URLs that start with 
"http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews" should redirect to a simple 
page mentioning that the problem is being worked on, but in the meantime 
people will need to use an actual newsreader and offer a link to 
http://www.digitalmars.com/NewsGroup.html.

(I don't really know how the how the web interface works. But I suppose 
if running it on a 32-bit machine were an option, you would've already 
done that.)

For those that are truly desperate for news about D but lack newsgroup 
access, recent D-related posts can be viewed from 
http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo.

-- 
jcc7
Jul 27 2006
parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
Working on a replacement of that system. There are several web based 
systems out there. It just a matter of finding one that fits. The 
newsguy stuff was great and it was free.

Thanks!
Jan



Justin C Calvarese wrote:

 Jan Knepper wrote:

 Yeah... that's because there as some issue's running the 32 bits 
 executable on a 64 bits operating system.
 Trying to figure those out...

 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "cerr" referenced from COPY 
 relocation in <executable>

 It has to do with the <executable> being linked against the dynamic 
 libraries... If it would be static this would not be a problem. 
 However... I do not have the sources... <sigh>

 Jan


 
 Since "500 Internal Server Error" could be showing up for a long time, 
 perhaps the URLs that start with 
 "http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews" should redirect to a simple 
 page mentioning that the problem is being worked on, but in the meantime 
 people will need to use an actual newsreader and offer a link to 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/NewsGroup.html.
 
 (I don't really know how the how the web interface works. But I suppose 
 if running it on a 32-bit machine were an option, you would've already 
 done that.)
 
 For those that are truly desperate for news about D but lack newsgroup 
 access, recent D-related posts can be viewed from 
 http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo.
 


-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org
Jul 27 2006
prev sibling parent "Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:
Weird, I use Thunderbird... everything was marked somewhat weird but now 
everything is fine, I have old posts, I have what I've read previously, etc.

Odd.

-[Unknown]


 Jan Knepper wrote:

 All,

 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server 
 with much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as 
 much RAM and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should 
 result in an 8*+ or so improvement.

 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles 
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as 
 well. However, the articles might all show as un-read when you 
 reconnect to news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird 
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I 
 could do to prevent this at this moment.

 Let me know if there are any problems.

 Thanks!
 Jan


 
 I can't seem to access archived messages through Thunderbird. New 
 messages are showing up fine. The web archive doesn't seem to be 
 working, either.
Jul 22 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Jan Knepper wrote:


 All,
 
 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server with
 much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as much RAM
 and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should result in an
 8*+ or so improvement.
 
 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as well.
 However, the articles might all show as un-read when you reconnect to
 news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I
 could do to prevent this at this moment.
 
 Let me know if there are any problems.
 
 Thanks!
 Jan
 
 
 


I am not able to read any of the old posts, I got all the headers from
earlier, but get that they don't exist on the server anymore if I try to
read them. I guess some clients will cache them, mine (KNode) don't. I also
unsubscribed / resubscribed to digitalmars.D.dtl to test. Only this thread
was there.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
DSource & #D: larsivi
Jul 22 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rajiv Bhagwat" <dataflow vsnl.com> writes:
Thanks for the move. Now everything works great in Outlook Express. For the
first time in years instead of thousands of unread messages, I am seeing
1-10, which is the correct number.
- Rajiv Bhagwat



"Jan Knepper" <jan smartsoft.us> wrote in message
news:e9tvl9$km5$1 opteron.digitaldaemon.com...

 All,

 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server with
 much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as much RAM
 and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should result in an
 8*+ or so improvement.

 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as well.
 However, the articles might all show as un-read when you reconnect to
 news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I
 could do to prevent this at this moment.

 Let me know if there are any problems.

 Thanks!
 Jan



 -- 
 ManiaC++
 Jan Knepper

 But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
 www.mozilla.org
Jul 23 2006
prev sibling parent reply "TK" <tk tech-head.ic24.nein-spam.net> writes:
"Jan Knepper" <jan smartsoft.us> wrote in message
news:e9tvl9$km5$1 opteron.digitaldaemon.com...

 All,



 The newsgroups (actually digitalmars.com) has moved to a new server with
 much more processor power Dual Opteron 2.0 Ghz, with 8 times as much RAM
 and about 8 times as much disk space). Overall this should result in an
 8*+ or so improvement.



 Unfortunately there were some issue's getting all the news articles
 moved over. It should be fine now and posting should work again as well.
 However, the articles might all show as un-read when you reconnect to
 news.digitalmars.com. (They did for me in Thunderbird
 www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/). I am not sure that there is anything I
 could do to prevent this at this moment.



 Let me know if there are any problems.

 Thanks!
 Jan


No thank you! with the transfer you've managed to squash that article
numbering bug that left an unread article count even after all articles had
been read in the groups, finally it tells the truth. None of the problem you
mention with thunderbird are experienced in OE 5.5SP2... was nice to watch
the unread count drop to zero just by selecting the newsgroup on the
in-active newsgroups for a change:-)
Aug 01 2006
parent reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.us> writes:
TK wrote:

 No thank you! with the transfer you've managed to squash that article
 numbering bug that left an unread article count even after all articles had
 been read in the groups, finally it tells the truth. None of the problem you
 mention with thunderbird are experienced in OE 5.5SP2... was nice to watch
 the unread count drop to zero just by selecting the newsgroup on the
 in-active newsgroups for a change:-)


The problems in Thunderbird (if any) are because I hit the server in 
between (before I fixed that numbering problem) I think.
It can be easily solved by stopping Thunderbird, removing the files from 
disk and restarting Thunderbird and downloading the articles again. NP 
to do that with Thunderbird.

Jan


-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org
Aug 01 2006
parent Adder <shefututurorshefilor yahoo.com> writes:
Hello,

This webpage is nice, but it looks worse than the old forums (which
are no longer functional). One cannot view the postings grouped by
thread, and cannot use the mouse to select & copy the text from
postings.

I wanted to kindly ask you to fix these issues, if you have the
time...


Thanks,
Adder
Sep 01 2006